Subject: Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 07:11:20 PDT From: "Lord_Of Jabootyville" To: fkusumot@ix.netcom.com To address the whole juging thread that has been started by Cathy Nicoloff there are several judges (myself included) who often work for no compensation or compensation only in product (and definitely not enough to be worth are time) who mainly judge because they enjoy being a part of a major event, socializing with players/judges or simply because they love the game of Magic. However, if one were to attempt to make a living at this (and this will not become a viable career for awhile) there are a couple of situations where a judge can make plenty. Take me at Worlds '98 I chose to run Ancillary events and was paid $1 per person per tournament I ran only single-elimination Rath Cycle drafts and single-elimination type 2 events (actually there really wasn't many other non-major ancillary events that weren't either of thes formats) because of the large amount of people who participated, I at one point was simultaneously running 11 tournaments (the record is 14 I believe set by Paul Geradi who recently moved over here, great guy) and I was easily making $100+ for 8 hours of work (that's a lot of money when you are 16 like me) and aside from a couple of inconsiderate players I had a great time while I was doing it too, I met a bunch of cool players (Jamie Parke, Brian Selden who walked to the Wizards barbecue with me as I guess everyone else had left already, Thomas Girard who played type 2 with me, Tommi Hovi, Tommi Walamies, watched CMU draft, and Gary Wise take off his pants in response to Hurloon Wrangler in an Unglued draft, and others too.) I got to play against them and though I wasn't really in their whole circle or whatever they were generally cool guys. My point is (to get away from this name-dropping crap) that a judge does have proper opportunities to get well compensated for his time he just has to pick which ones he wants to judge. I judge not only because I get paid occasionaly but because I enjoy helping people out, watching people play improves my play, and I always have fun. Also I agree with Nat Fairbanks breakdown of how much it costs to become a judge, I became a judge at the 1997 World Championships and went from not being a judge to being level 2 as I had a good enough test score and knew my stuff. I paid $10 for the test and the $25 yearly judge membership fee and that is all I have spent thus far though I am currently pursuing my level 3 (I've had one interview which I didn't pass, its HARD to become level 3, as it should, as it should) and I still have yet to spend more money. One final point it wouldn't make sense as a business for Wizards to compensate people who would work for free anyhow, not saying the judges don't deserve it (I wouldn't object to Wizards paying me) anyhow enough for now thanks for reading Jesse Wilke Level II Judge Seattle, WA ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com