Subject: Professional Dealers Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 17:43:35 GMT From: sagrillo@tiac.net (sagrillo) Newsgroups: rec.games.trading-cards.magic.misc Once again we have another major tournament and another set of discussions about it--almost all of which are related to cheating and very few of which are related to strategy or other gaming issues. I don't want to get bogged down in little issues like whether the card in someone's lap was accidental or whether there really is a muscle sliver somewhere in some trash can. I'd like to mention how much of the problem could be adressed: use professional dealers at the major tourneys (real professional dealers for the top matches and volunteer judge/dealers for all the others). If you are serious about wanting an end to major cheating for the big money games, you will have to make it harder to do successfully. One major way professional poker handles this in tournaments is to use professional dealers. The dealer would handle both players decks--shuffling and the like--and would hand the player a card when drawn. The players would never touch their decks, their opponents decks--ideally would never even SEE their decks--except when the game gave them the opportunity to do something non-random with the deck. Impulse? The dealer hands you cards, then you hand the dealer back cards as called for. The dealer could also potentially keep track of a few very simple things like whether a land has been played, and what phase the game is in (say, by moving a marker from phase to phase). This would eliminate most (but not all) the opportunities to cheat. Sure, you could still mis-spend mana to cast spells and the like. But, most of the card and deck manipulation would be impossible (or extremely difficult) to do. Now, professional dealers are not cheap. I'd guess they are $20 to $30 an hour. This means that, if you want real professional dealers at the top table, everyone has to pay more in entry fees. If you want appointed dealers for every match....well, you either have to pay a lot more for the tourney or else poney up some volunteer time to cover all the added work. This clearly isn't appropriate for every mom and pop card store tourney. But, it does seem reasonable for the big tournaments (Regionals, Nationals, Pro Tour and perhaps a very small number of other tourneys). Professional sports (real professional sports) have enough line judges, dealers, whatever to keep the game reasonably honest. If you want the same in magic, the players will have to poney up the extra costs to cover them (or find sponsors or TV networks or some other source of $$ to cover them). Without adequate judges/referees/dealers, cheating will continue to dominate big money games. Another alternative would probably be to decrease the incentive to cheat (by dropping all prize money from the top tournaments). But I don't think that would work very well now that cheating has been institutionalized. Whining for stiffer penalties for cheaters has gotten players no where. I don't see this changing any time soon. --- Your garden variety mage, DeAnn Iwan